MathiasREX

ma se disfunzioni sessuali si sono riscontrate solo nel 3% degli utilizzatori.. disordini nell'eiaculazione nel 2% (nel gruppo trattato a placebo 1%)degli utilizzatori.. e l'età media dei tester che hanno partecipato allo studio era 66 anni... (erano coinvolti pazienti di un età compresa tra 47 e 94 anni...) inoltre mi sembra aver capito che la soppressione del dht in circolo è molto più lunga che con finasteride..per cui si potrebbe forse assumere una compressa 1-2 volte a settimana.. guardati sto link... cavolo non lo trovo piu

la fina diminuisce i peli del corpo... La Duta dovrebbe funzionare esponenzialmente meglio. Il tizioo che l'ha usata per 8 mesi ha riportato che paralllelamente alla crescita di capelli ha perso tutti i peli sulla schiena duta!duta!duta!duta! ci vuole la duta! vogliamo la duta!

che io da quei due non ci vado...

sperimentazione finale molecole simili... sii più esauriente.. per sperimentazione clinica finale intendi che sono già stati sottoposti alla 3°phase FDA?

si ,mi riferivo a quello. per gli integratori non so nemmeno io fra parentesi ho appena comprato una scorta di 3 confezioni di un integratore che contiene tuttedue....(c'era la convenienza )

strawow!!!!! ma allora salus ti dai da fare proprio un sacco!!!

non lasciamoci ingannare dall'immaginazione... il dottor gho non ha mai specificato la sua procedura. il nome hair multiplication non è detto che significhi esattamente quello che questo nome suggerisce alla nostra mente. se ci fate caso nell'ultima intervista il dt. gho ha specificato di non sapere che capelli sono quelli che ricrescono,ma solo che ricrescono... se fosse un "semplice trapianto di capelli clonati" questa affermazione non avrebbe alcun senso perchè per certo i capelli ricresciuti sarebbero stati quelli clonati e trapiantati...

l'avevo visto anch'io... mi sebra che fosse un antibiotico.

ahah!!DEP!! Ho delle altre prove!!..... te l'avevo detto che un giorno... http://www.nutritionfocus.com/ VAi a vedere nella scheda dell'arginina in fondo....

x salus... il riferimento all'integratore mi è venuto in mente nel momento in cui ho visitato il sito sopracitato, ho pensato che fossi arrivato a questo gel all' aloe per caso ,nell ambito della ricerca di un "laboratorio" per la produzione del "nostro" fantomatico integratore. siccome la ditta del sito produce una quantità esagerata di integratori erboristici. ecco spiegato il riferimento all'integratore.

beh,non sono del tutto daccordo.... ci sono esercizi in grado di far aumentare i livelli di testosterone. finche non esce duta.. cercate di tenervi lontani dallo SQUAT e dagli stacchi da terra

sono proteine in polvere,niente di più. Io le prendo per integrare l'alimentazione, niente a che fare con i capelli. comunque sono abbastanza care, se ne trovanno a prezzi molto migliori altre marche nei negozi di integratori.

molecola nuova?????? guarda che fns altro non è che un pool di aminoacidi...

questo dovrebe essere l'ultimo dei tuoi pensieri... e comunque certo. al massimo (nell'ipotesi che posa funzionare) una volta ottenuti risultati si passa ad una terapia di mantenimento più sporadica

Ottimo! e bello trovare gente che si da così da fare per la causa.... ti ho votato!!!

ecco quello preparato da dep dopo minuziose ricerche..lo riposto... Ricapitolando: -160 mg di saw palmetto -350 mg di te verde -150 mg di estratto di radice(non foglie) di Ortica -50 mg di Beta-sitosterolo -30/40 mg di vitamina B-6 esclusivamente in forma di piridossal-5-fosfato. -300/400 mg di L-cistina -100 mg di Picnogenolo (siamo a circa 1200 mg) Da valutare : -10 mg di zinco -1 mg di rame -50 mcg di selenio -Fitoestrogeni -Altre proposte....... -Dep-

ci vuole la ricetta per il prosteren?

ecco cosa ho trovato su una delle mie ricerche su alt.bald.spot.. non suggestionatevi troppo però.... "Stay away from Revivogen is a total scam. It is Pure and utter worthless Snakeoil. It will do absolutely nothing to help with your hair loss!!!! In fact it could make it worse. This is a very shady company using very poor science and it should be avoided. Beware there are many vendors here who will try to convince you other wise But before you waste money on this worthless product consider the Following 1) They use typical snakeoil keywords like "For Fuller, Thicker Hair", "All Natural" and "Patent Pending" 2) If this product has a success rate of 96% like they claim, why hasn't it taken the world by storm? 3) There have been no non-biased studies on this product. Sure they claim 96% success rate, but anybody can claim anything about their own product. (Just look at what the cigarette companies claim). There are no independent studies to back up their claims. They keep saying they are trying to setup some studies but they never seem to materialize, kind of makes you wonder what they are hiding. 4) Look at the before & after photographs on their website. The top guy the before picture is taken directly above him, it shows he is balding profusely in the front. The after picture is taken from behind. It just looks like he grew hair because you can't see the front where he is losing hair. It's a common slick trick that many snakeoilers use, taking pictures at different angles. The middle before & after picture, the guy has a different shaped head and his baldspot is in a different location in each, it's obviously two different people. The bottom before & after the guy just grew his hair longer. Also these very same pictures have appeared in advertisements for other snakeoils. If this product is so good you would think they would have real pictures and wouldn't have to resort to obvious fake photographs. 5) Same with their letters. Notice how they are signed like John Smith, Lawyer Jane Doe, Housewife. Who do you know list their occupation after their signature? Nobody, Just like the product, the letters are obvious fakes. A company that uses fake Photos and letters should warn you immediately that something is not right! 6) They only offer a 3 month money back guarantee yet they claim it takes 6 months for the product to work so the guarantee is worthless because by the time you realize you have been scammed it is too late. If it has a 96% success rate like they claim what do they have to loose by offering a longer money back guarantee. Adding to the shadiness the money back guarantee is it is from the day it is shipped so it is actually quite less than 90 days. And remember offering a money back guarantee doesn't legitimize a product because every scam artist knows that even if one is offered the vast majority of people who are dissatisfied with a product don't go through the time and hassle of getting there money back. 7) They don't list the concentrations of their (supposably) active ingredients. Propecia contain 1mg Finastride, Rogaine contains 5% minoxidil, Tylenol contains 500mg Ibuprophen, etc, etc, etc. Can you name one legitimate medicine out there that doesn't list the concentrations of their active ingredients? Kind of suspicious that Revivogen doesn't. This is significant for Revivogen because supposably one of their most effective ingredient in fighting hair loss is the Free Fatty Acids (Oleic,Alpha and gamma Linoleics). These free fatty acids are found in small concentrations in pretty much every type of fat and oil product out there, because they don't list the concentrations of these for all anybody knows they could be using plain old corn oil in their product. Actually if you look nowhere to they say on their website the fatty acids are in their free form. These fatty acids are widely and cheaply available so not listing their concentrations isn't because they are worried that someone will copy their product, it because they are hiding something. Also Azelaic acid is a prescription medication. So there has to be very little of it in Revivogen or you would need a prescription for it. (BTW Azelaic Acid has been studied for decades it has never been shown to be effective for MPB) Proanthocyanidins are found in tiny concentrations in grapeseeds or apples. And While Proanthocyanidins might work a little for hair loss (In studies in grew the same amount of hair as the Proplyene Glycol in Rogaine which is much less than the minoxidil or Propecia). It would take a hell of a lot of grape seeds or apples to get a significant amount in Revivogen and it would make the product cost a hell of a lot more than it does. The odds are they just cheaply crush grapes or use an apple fragrance and say the got proanthocyanidins in there, who knows they don't list the concentration. There has been many complaints here about Revivogen since they added the Proanthocyanidins. 8) If you want to buy Revivogen because it is 100% natural forget it that is also a lie. In order to get fats into their free form they have to drop them into Sodium Hydroxide (which turns them into soap) then neutralized with Hydrochloric Acid then extract them with gasoline. Sodium Hydroxide, Hydrochloric acid and gasoline. How natural is that? 9)The main supposably active ingredients the free fatty acids have never been studied for hair growth. In fact they have never been shown to grow anything. In fact they inhibit cellular proliferation in every type of fast dividing cells they have been applied. They are so good at stopping cellular proliferation they are used to stop tumors as part as chemotherapy. Sorry but chemotherapy agents and hair growth do not go together. 10) The whole basis for Revivogen supposably being a hair growth agent is a study done on a Syrian golden hamster flank organ. It has never been tested in humans (There was one study on ONE 63 year old Chinese guy that didn't evolve hair). What other condition would you take a product that has never been tested in humans? 11) The sad part is didn't even grow hair on the hamster. In fact it inhibited hair growth on the hamster. In another test the Free fatty acids inhibited the cellular proliferation of keratinocytes which are necessary for hair growth (Keratinocyte differentiation is stimulated by activators of the nuclear hormone receptor PPARalpha.Hanley K, Jiang Y, He SS, Friedman M, Elias PM, Bikle DD, Williams ML, Feingold KR.) Again there is no independent study showing Revivogen grows hair. So Revivogen can actually make your hair loss worse. 12) As for the other ingredients not one of them has been shown to grow hair at all!!! Most of these ingredients have been individually studied for years and have never been shown to do anything for Male pattern baldness. Look at their research listed on their web site. Lots of hard core scientific studies there to make it sound ligit, but if you look closely you will see very little of it has anything to do with MPB, but NOT EVEN ONE shows that any of their ingredients does anything for male pattern baldness. 13) Also if you notice Revivogen which has been around for a couple of years doesn't have a patent but patent pending, what ever that means. It's not that hard to get a patent for a legitimate product, the fact they don't have one shows they are afraid to let their product be reviewed, especially by the government. 14) Finally watch, The people supporting Revivogen will not defend it using any scientific studies showing it grows hair (or anything) but instead try to hide the fact they have no evidence by personally attacking those of us who know it for the scam it is. ******* The conclusion is obvious, Revivogen is basically a very slick scam. One of the best in the long history of hair loss scams. So stick with Rogaine, Propecia, Nizoral or Tricomin which all have legitimate non-biased studies done on them which prove they help with MPB. And stay away from snakeoils like Revivogen, you will just be wasting your money. Check out www.hairquackery.com The website tells you how to spot a scam and while they don't list products like Revivogen by name, You will see it in there Keratinocyte differentiation is stimulated by activators of the nuclear hormone receptor PPARalpha. Hanley K, Jiang Y, He SS, Friedman M, Elias PM, Bikle DD, Williams ML, Feingold KR. Department of Dermatology, University of California, San Francisco, USA. Peroxisome proliferator activated receptors (PPAR) belong to the superfamily of nuclear hormone receptors that heterodimerize with the retinoid X receptor and regulate transcription of several genes involved in lipid metabolism and adipocyte differentiation. Because of the role of 1,25-dihydroxyvitamin D3 and retinoic acid working through similar receptors (the vitamin D receptor and retinoic acid receptor, respectively) on keratinocyte differentiation, we have examined the effects of activators of PPARalpha on keratinocyte differentiation. The rate of cornified envelope formation was increased 3-fold in keratinocytes maintained in low calcium (0.03 mM) and incubated in the presence of clofibric acid, a potent PPARalpha activator. Involucrin, a cornified envelope precursor, and the cross-linking enzyme transglutaminase, were increased at both the message level (2-7-fold) and the protein level (4-12-fold) by clofibric acid. Furthermore, physiologic doses of the fatty acids oleic acid, linoleic acid, and eicosatetraynoic acid, which are also activators of PPARalpha, also induced involucrin and transglutaminase protein and mRNA. In contrast, the PPARgammaligand prostaglandin J2 had no effect on protein or mRNA levels of involucrin or transglutaminase. Levels of involucrin and transglutaminase mRNA and protein were induced by clofibric acid in keratinocytes incubated in 1.2 mM calcium, a concentration which by itself induces keratinocyte differentiation. Finally, PPARalpha activators inhibit DNA synthesis. This study demonstrates that PPARalpha activators, including putative endogenous ligands such as fatty acids, induce differentiation and inhibit proliferation in keratinocytes, and suggests a regulatory role for the PPARalpha in epidermal homeostasis."

l'altra sera non riuscivo a prendere sonno così mi sono letto un pò di alt.baldspot... ho trovato questo post che mi sembra essere particolarmente interessante ,parla della localizzazione del dht tipo 1 e tipo 2 nelle diverse regioni dello scalpo, dei bulbi, della papilla dermica ecc. penso che possa darci un idea di quella che potrebbe essere la posibile efficacia di dutasteride sulla regione frontale. Bryan, I was searching through alt.baldspot earlier and saw a post by you detailing a study done by Dr Sawaya on 5a-R at work in occipital and frontal follicles. You state that she discovered that Type 1 5a-R is 40-60% more common in frontal follicles than in occipital follicles in men suffering from MPB. And also that there is more Type 1 5-aR in follicles of men suffering from MPB than in non-balding men or in women. Can you explain the study because you didn't quote it in your post. I ask because in previous posts you have said that Type 2 5a-R is mostly at work in balding follicles, and that Type 1 5-aR only enters the equation from the sebaceous glands in the scalp and through the serum. It seems Dr Sawaya is saying something else. Pete, that's not quite what I've said in the past. Let me clarify: 1) I believe that type 2 5a-R is mostly at work in the dermal papilla, the "control center" of the follicle; and I believe that's why type 2 inhibitors alone are much more effective than type 1 inhibitors alone at stopping balding, even though there's definitely type 1 in other parts of the follicle. Furthermore, even though some recent studies (like that Japanese study to which I referred in my email to you) have even found mRNA for type 1 in the dermal papilla, I consider the bottom line "acid test" to be the fact that two different groups have now found that only tiny quantities of finasteride are sufficient to shut down 5a-R activity in them. MK386 was ineffective. (Also, keep in mind that cultured dermal papilla cells lose their ability to express type 2, according to that Japanese study. There appear to be serious differences between the "in vivo" and "in vitro" expression of these enzymes.) I was never ever referring to the follicle as a WHOLE as having only type 2 at work. Just the dermal papilla. Here are a few selected passages from Sawaya's "Different Levels of 5a-Reductase Type I and II, Aromatase, and Androgen Receptor in Hair Follicles of Women and Men with Androgenetic Alopecia": "...Establishing the optimum assay conditions resulted in finding differences in the isoenzymes in scalp hair follicles, as shown in Table III, in which type I is four to five times higher than type II in both women and men. Both isoenzyme forms were significantly higher (p<0.001) in frontal than occipital follicles for women and men. Women had approximately 3 to 3.5 times less type I and II 5a-R, respectively, than hair follicles of men. "When comparing frontal to occipital hair follicles within women, results indicate approximately 40% more type I and type II isoenzymes in frontal than occipital follicles (p<0.001). Frontal follicles in men had approximately 60% higher levels of both isoenzymes than occipital follicles (p<0.001). The results indicate clear differences between as well as within women and men with regard to frontal versus occipital hair follicles. Table III. Type I and II 5a-R Levels in Hair Follicles from Women and Men* ------------------------------------------------------- 5a-R ------------------------- Type I Type II ------------------------------------------------------- Women Frontal HF 22.0 +/- 2.8 4.6 +/- 2.0 Occipital HF 13.0 +/- 1.8 2.8 +/- 1.0 Men Frontal HF 63.3 +/- 2.2 17.2 +/- 1.4 Occipital HF 29.4 +/- 2.2 6.9 +/- 1.4 *Activity expressed as pmol per 30 min per 0.5 mg protein. And here is a little bit from the "Discussion" section: "Other studies have emphasized the importance of type I 5a-R found in skin (Itami et al, 1990, 1991) versus type II 5a-R in prostate and testes (Anderson et al, 1991; George et al, 1991). The current study indicates that both forms of 5a-R may be present in scalp hair follicles. In AGA, the levels of these two isoenzymes may differ in frontal and occipital scalp hair follicles....It was recently shown in whole skin sections that 5a-R type 1 is expressed strongly in sebaceous glands and hair follicles, whereas 5a-R type II is expressed in the dermal papilla and interfollicular dermal spindle cells (Russell et al, 1996)..."

manda un pvt a chantal..un altra donna del forum che l'ha provato e prova a dargli qualche suggerimento visto che lei non ne era rimasta affatti entusiasta... ciao!

se qualcuno vuole organizzare un ordine congiunto,io ci sto per 2 confezioni!!

quello di boro è senz'altro uno tra i migliori come rapporto qualitàprezzo. (in che supermercati lo prendi??)

IO uso questo.....è in assoluto il meglio...ma è in assoluto il più caro e lo trovi solo in certe erboristerie. TEADYN° della BIOMEDICINE Research. "Ogni opercolo di Teadyn contiene 300 mg di estratto secco titolato e standardizzato di foglie di Tè verde (Camelia sinensis L.) al 95% di polifenoli di cui 84%catechine ed al 5% di saponine,calcio fosfato, silice, magnesio sterato vegetale, cellulosa microcristallina, gelatina alimentare. 1-2 opercoli al giorno." questo è in capsule. 36 opercoli 14,46 euro. ah,è esente da caffeina. ps: se vuoi ti mando per mail la fotocopia di un libro che parla del te verde. interessante che in questo articolo ho trovato riferimenti all'inibizione della 5 alfa reduttasi, alla seborrea ed ai bulbi piliferi del cuoio cappelluto. Ciao!

1° INTEGRATORE 500 mg di Lisina 500 mg di Cistina 150 mg di Olio di pesce (meglio se di fegato di merluzzo)(omega3-omega6) 150 mg di acido lipoico. 2° Integratore mi sembrava ottimo quello da te fornito anche se mi sembra doveroso verificare/valutare le varie standardizzazioni soprattutto per te verde e SAw Palmetto (I cardini dell' integratore...) ps: mi è venuto in mente che sarebbe fondamentale la consultazione di 2 siti! www.hairloss-research.org e un altro di cui non ricordo il nome ma che mi sembra fosse stato segnalato da te o da Hal in passato...